Episode #34 - Narco Mindset Podcast - Why I love Jesus but can not stand His so called “followers.” - Part 1
Narco Mindset Podcast
Why I love Jesus but can not stand His so called “followers.” - Part 1
September 21, 2020
Host: Jorge Valdes Ph.D. - An Author, Speaker, Blogger, Mindset Coach, Podcaster, and YouTuber
In this podcast, Dr. Valdes gets heated up with what he considers the hypocrisy among those they called themselves Christians, Catholics, and Protestants alike. Dr. Valdes understands clearly why people who have no faith want nothing to do with Christianity, it's not Jesus anyone has a problem with Its Jesus’ “so-called followers.” Dr. Valdes received an email from a very dear friend of his, who also happens to be one of the most famous swim/triathlon coaches in the world, who has been an atheist all his life and through the many years they have known each other, this person has started to have faith. This disturbs Dr. Valdes so much that this episode is part 1 of a 2 Episode series. You see Dr. Valdes understands these people so clearly because he too was an atheist, and then had an encounter with Jesus and decided to become a Christian, but when he entered in organized religion the deception is so great that Dr. Valdes also DOES NOT want anything to do with organized religion. Jesus, he will follow unto death, but the harm so-called Christians do to those who are hopeless looking for meaning is enormous and somehow someone has to have the guts to fight this. Stay tuned, very shocking episodes.
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INTRO: Before we watched TV shows and movies on Narcos, and even before Pablo Escobar’s rise to fame, there was one man who was the ultimate Narco. He lived the Narco life of greed, money and power but found a way to reclaim his life, and use his astonishing experiences to empower others to live a life of hope, meaning and redemption. Welcome to the Narco Mindset podcast where Dr. Jorge Valdes shares his journey through life before and after the Medellín Drug Cartel. From torture and multiple prison sentences to how he refocused his life onto a path of principles learned as a Narco. It’s time to share that raw truth with you, right here on the Narco Mindset podcast with your host, Dr. Jorge Valdes.
Jorge: Today on the Narco Mindset podcast: Those that follow me and get offended by this, don’t follow me anymore. I am pro-life for that unborn baby as much as I am pro-life for those children that are separated at the border. We are not raising children any longer to be truthful, honest, integrity and sincere. Then we wonder why people hate the Catholic Church, and why the Catholic Church is dying faster than any other church in America. There is no emotional attachment as it is fighting for that baby that’s at the border that you need to do something about making his life better.
Welcome to the Narco Mindset podcast. My name is Dr. Jorge Valdes, and I will be your host for today. Today, it’s going to be shocking to everybody because I want to dedicate this podcast to all those people that have been out there, to all my listeners who have been out there and have been hurt by the church or have been unable to reach, for whatever reason, because mainly, as we look at the world today and the hatred that exists today, it’s even exemplified in the church. It’s unbelievable. I never thought that I would ever see the time when I would see a priest get up on YouTube and spew out the most horrific horrors and hatred I have ever seen. Andy Stanley said one thing, and that’s what I think that every, not only every preacher but every believer of God to do. That is no one should ever align themselves publicly with anything or anyone that is not Jesus.
Today, early in the morning, about 5:30, I received an email from a very, very dear friend of mine. This person is a very, very famous coach, he has coached more people, more winners than anyone I have ever known. I love him dearly, and one of the things that are so amazing about him is his heart. A lot of the athletes that he has made are world champions. Athletes have been broken, and have come to him because they have found no other one to teach them or to coach them on to success. I love the guy. I’ve spent a lot of time with him. I wish I would get to see him a lot more often. I had an idea about a program one time and I called him, he lives far away in Europe. He said, “If you're really serious, come see me.” He hangs up the phone and he did not think that I would. I did show up, and I met with him, and we created an amazing program. I share all my podcasts with him, and I’ve been talking to him now. We’ve known each other now, I would say about eight years. Today, he wrote me an email that really touched my heart. I asked him if I could share it, and he said I could.
Here it goes. He says, “Each day, I try to do my best. I will be the best that I can be. I wanted to acknowledge that you have had a positive effect on me. Then I was thinking, you might use this to your march to get people to open up their minds. I think for non-believers that are 100% like me, the step is too far. I think it is like coaching. One needs to go one step at a time. I recognize what you're trying to achieve but I might be the case study that can help you.
You have lured me from where I stood where I believe that faith is so important for humans. I settled on spirituality to say to myself, I believe in love and kindness to all. That maybe God or could be explained that way as I made me happier personally, absolutely. If you could turn people around to step to this level then the non-believers won’t leave after a couple of episodes. You take them on a journey of alignment, step by step. These are the F ... let me just put it, this is what he wrote. These are the fuckers you need to influence. There are a lot like me that have given up hope. You concentrate on the step from that where you’ve moved me to, and you will catch many, many more.
It’s really, really, amazing because honestly, I’ll be totally transparent with you. Lately, I have been really, really struggling whether to continue the Catholic faith that I love because I happen to love the sacrament. I really believe that when Jesus said, “This is my body,” that’s what he meant. I do, but as I look around, all my… Let me take that back. Not all my Catholic brothers but most of my Catholic brothers, many whom I love, they have become so hateful because of the freaking election coming up.
It seems that for them, it’s all about the unborn child. They call themselves pro-life, and I’m just going to call it out the way it is, and those that follow me and get offended by this, don’t follow me anymore. I make no money off of this. I speak my heart. I’m transparent. I don’t give a crap what anybody thinks about me. I’m 64 now. I have lived my life. I made my mark. All I care about is that I just happen to believe there is a Jesus, and when I get there, I want to be well received. But as to anybody else here besides my family, and those that I love and respect me no matter what I believe, and no matter how different my belief is from them, the rest I just really don’t care.
If I can help people, I would do that. I’ve done everything humanly possible that a person can think of ever doing but I’m too old to be politically correct, and I’m going to tell it the way that it is. For my many, many brothers of faith that call themselves Christians, that consider themselves pro-life, I’m going to believe that the day that I see them fight for every freaking life. I see them fight for the life of the unborn, and that’s great. I am pro-life. I believe in the sanctity of life but I am pro all life. I am pro-life of that unborn baby as much as I am pro-life of the baby that goes hungry in America every day. I am pro-life for that unborn baby as much as I am pro-life for those children that are separated at the border. I am anti-abortion but I am anti-abortion for me. I’ll be clear and I’ll be transparent. My daughter comes to me and says that she’s pregnant or was raped, that she was raped by a man, and she feels traumatic and she just cannot see her carrying that baby, I’ll be the first one to take her to an abortion clinic.
Listen, those of you that follow me and don’t like what I just said, it’s really simple, unfollow me. It doesn’t make a difference, financially or otherwise. What makes a difference is that I’m real before Jesus, and I’m real before God. If he’s going to judge me for that then, well, I’ll just take my chances with that. But if a doctor comes to me and tells me to choose between my wife and an unborn baby that I love dearly but I have not seen, I’m going to choose my wife. That’s Jorge Valdes.
There it is, out in the open.
Again, I am pro-life but I am pro all life. I’m pro that African-American, young kid growing up in a ghetto with no opportunity at life. I think about my grandchildren. They're going to have every chance to survive and get a great education. They ain’t no better than the poor kid born in a crack house just because he was born in a crack house. He was created by the same God.
Therefore, I am pro all life. When I think about the many, many women that have an abortion, I’ve known a few. I can tell you this, there might be some out there because I’m talking generally, there might be some out there that just wants to get pregnant, have a good time, and get an abortion. I don’t know why but it’s pretty painful from what I hear. It’s a lot easier to take a pill. It’s a lot easier to make the man wear a condom. I don’t understand it. I just think that most women that get pregnant and choose abortion are because they find there’s no other way out for them, and that is very, very sad. I know a doctor that’s a good friend of mine and he will not perform any abortion but he knows another doctor who’s his best friend that does. Do you know what this doctor said to him? “You will not believe how many women from countries just years back that where abortion was illegal that come to me here in the United States to get an abortion.”
What he’s trying to say is that who gets hurt by-laws prohibiting abortion? The rich? The ones with the means? Hell no. If they want to get an abortion, they’re going to get it. It’s those poor, poor women that have no way out. Those indigenous women. Those women living in a ghetto. Those women abandoned by a man. Those are the ones that have no way out. If my pro-life brothers who love dearly, just because they believe differently than me, who I love dearly, think that it’s okay to make it illegal so that a woman can have an abortion with a clothes hanger, well, then you know what, that’s on your conscience.
To me, it’s what I believe. I don’t want to impose my will on anybody else’s life. I believe that if a woman decides to get an abortion, it’s between her, her husband, and her God. Now, again, let me make it very clear. It hurts me when I hear of the many, many children that are aborted every year around the world. But I am no judge, I ain’t no God, and I’m not going to sit here. I pray and I hurt. That’s all that I can do. But I also pray that I can do something for those women that find no other way out.
Perhaps, you know, if we think about that, there’ll be a lot fewer abortions in the world. You know what I read recently that I thought is really interesting, and why so many of my dear brothers of faith that they call themselves of faith, are pro-life, or really pro-unborn, and the whole issue becomes abortion is because fighting for an unborn fetus, there is no emotional attachment as it is fighting for that baby that’s at the border that you need to do something about making his life better, and stopping the separation of children from their mother. Don’t give me that bullshit that they should come here legally. Many of them tend to suffer at the border looking for asylum, and they just don’t get it. Do you want to see the reality? Go ahead and watch Immigration Nation on Netflix, and you'll see what’s going on in the world. Are we so naïve? So pitiful?
I cannot believe to tell you how angry I am, and it hurts me because I want to leave the church. I don’t want to go to those buildings anymore. I want to listen to Andy Stanley every Sunday like I’ve had ever since the day I first heard of him because he is a man of God that doesn’t judge anyone, and stands for Christ, and loves people. Perhaps all these churches that are empty and all my Catholic churches that are full of old people and very few young people because we have more young people considering themselves non than Christian, they need to see why and how North Point Church in Atlanta, Georgia has grown to almost 50,000 faithful attendees every Sunday. Perhaps that message is a lot different than the message that we see in our empty churches. Here is the deal, I talk to a lot of kids, and I see a lot of kids.
I’m going to tell you something, in 15-20 years, like Abraham Lincoln said, our children will one day be our senators and our congressmen and our president. In 15-20 years, they will be the ones running our country, and these kids, I have hope in them because they have a social conscience, and they don’t think like my generation. They're not as divisive and as hateful as my generation has become. Damn it, I can’t freaking believe it. How many people hate each other over a freaking president on both sides of the aisle without realizing that you know what, in eight years, or four years, we’re going to have another one and another one.
Then ask ourselves, are we really fighting because of the president because oh my God, if Trump doesn’t get elected, the world’s coming to an end. Social communism is coming. Bullshit. Listen, I’ve been hearing this since the Vietnam War. America is great when its people are good otherwise America is very ugly. Look at the world how they see us now. I’ve got friends all over the world. They don’t see us the way they used to 10-15 years ago.
We need to ask ourselves why though do we even give a shit? The thing about the implication of our actions and the way we live doesn’t reflect on us. If we’re sorry, we’re going to be sorry. My wife is sorry, she’s going to be sorry. It reflects on our children. We are not raising children any longer to be truthful, honest, integrity, and sincere. Think about that. We’re raising children to be hateful, to be divisive. I just got off of Facebook. I couldn’t stand it anymore. I couldn’t stand the fact that just about every post on both sides is about hateful, it’s about ugliness. Damn it, can we agree to disagree? Can we be civil?
I don’t give a shit if someone likes Trump, and I sure as hell don’t give a shit if someone hates Trump. That’s how I feel about it. Today I’m just coming out. You know, I’ve been struggling with this for a long time because as I wrote in my book, Coming Clean, you know, it was hard to tell the world about who I was. I didn’t want to do that. All I wanted to do was to be a college professor and let everyone forget about me. I didn’t realize that one day there would be at Google. I did and it was freeing. Today, I’m being freed from holding back and not letting the world know what I stand for at this time because I believe that friends like this one that wrote to me are my real friends, and he’s not a Christian. By no means.
When I met him, he was an atheist, but so was I. I didn’t judge him because he was an atheist. I judged him because he’s a hell of a good man. Think about that. To have a lot better man than most Christians that I know. That’s just the truth. It’s very, very, very sad. You know, no one in the world has a problem with Jesus. No one. Think about this. Think about this for a minute. Why was it that 2000+ years ago, 12 nobodies, nobodies?
One was a doctor, the rest were nobodies: fishermen, inconsequential people. Why was it that those 12 people, in three years, ended up defining for the world that God is love? It wasn’t because of the God they knew from the holy scriptures of the Old Testament. That guy was pretty rough. That guy could strike us dead in a heartbeat. It’s because, for 3 years, they walked and saw love. Because they walked and saw love, and come to believe that Jesus was love to them then, therefore, they were able to say that God is love. It [inaudible 00:16:16] to that that they said God is love.
Why was it that these 12 nobodies without no email, no social media, no LinkedIn, no Facebook, no Instagram, how were they able to change the world? Change western civilization forever? It wasn’t because they were hateful. It’s because they showed them that a God, that for them, a Jesus whose love was so enormous that it transformed their lives, and let them abandon everything they stood for. A love so enormous that makes a man say, “No, crucify me upside down because I’m not worthy to die like that man.”
I don’t know how many of you have been tortured. I don’t know how many of you have laid on the floor of a prison being beat to death for 28 days but I’m going to tell you something, it takes a lot of balls to do that. It takes a lot of belief that honor is the most important thing a man has or a woman. That truth does matter that there is no alternative truth. That I do not believe a liar. My father said, “Judge a man not by his big actions but by his little actions. By his little actions, you will know how he’s going to behave when something big happens.” If you lie to me once, that will be it, because I have no respect for you. I’ll pray for you but I have zero respect for you because my father taught me that all a man has in this world is his word.
The only thing we cannot, ever, no one can take away from us, only we can give it up. We have no control whether we’re rich or poor. No control whether this freaking virus kills us or not. No control whether we’re sick or healthy. The only thing we have absolute control in our life that nobody can take is our word. You know what, it really sucks how little that means to so many freaking people in this world. You know that the greatest letters that I get, and I get a lot of emails, are all from people that are hurting, and people that don’t have faith but just somehow feel that I’m giving them hope, that my story gives them hope. The story of how a Jewish carpenter came to me when I was a horrific sinner. A story of how when the world seemed to come to an end for me, it wasn’t. I was able to earn a Ph.D., then build a multimillion-dollar company, and retire at 56. It gives people hope.
What doesn’t give people hope is the hatred, the ugliness, and the divisiveness. Anyone of my friends who is insulted, I want to tell you that I love you. I do. Unfortunately, I have to be true because you might not like the way that I am. You might not like the way that I look. You might not like the way that I act or the way that I talk. None of that makes a difference to me. I don’t love you because of how or what you believe about me. I learned that the hard way when I almost lost my wife. I love you because God’s put you in my heart. I don’t give a shit how you feel about me. One thing that you will recognize for eternity, that I was honorable, I was truthful, never cheated anyone and I never lied to you. That’s what I will go to my grave with.
I’m not going to go to a grave sitting back and hearing a priest, James Altman, and all his freaking cronies, telling me that if you’re a Democrat, you cannot be Catholic. That there will be millions of babies, unborn babies, fetuses, waiting for you in hell. What the hell does he think he is, or how can anyone ever hear that, and say it’s okay? Do you think that Jesus would say that it’s okay? Who died and made him God?
At the end of the day, I just believed there’s only one God. Telling you that the DACA children, many of them who have bled their blood defending our freedom so that we can spew that hatred so that we can live in a country where we can talk all that shit, and people listen to it, whether they like us or not. That didn’t come at no cost, people. That came at the cost of a lot of great men and women who sacrificed their lives for us. Who took their lives in their hands, and went to war, even to wars that they did not believe in but to them, to serve was an honor. How many who have not gone to war, or how many have evaded war consider themselves honorable? That’s the question. How do we judge people that are sacrificing their lives for us? Those DACA children who committed no crime but have their parents bring them to this country when they're very young, who know no other country but America, who our teachers, our first responders, our doctors, our nurses, our military officers, call them criminals.
No, Father. I shouldn’t even call him a Father. To me, he ain’t no Father. You know what, what angers me more is not him because he’ll live with what he believes or doesn’t believe. He’ll live with the apparent hatred and racism that he exhibits. It is those that think that that behavior is okay. I thank God for the Bishop in Lacrosse who knew how to reprimand them but then there's a Bishop in Texas who applauded him as a hero. Then we wonder why people hate the Catholic Church, and why the Catholic church is dying faster than any other church in America. Why there's so many lack of priests and very few people want to become a priest. To me, the greatest sacrifice a man makes besides going to war is to become a priest. When that man or woman becomes a nun, does it because they really love Jesus and want to love those God created.
Okay, I think this is a good time for me to stop and take a break, and come back in a couple of days. Pretty heated up. It’s a topic that’s dear to my heart. I’m tired of listening and getting letters. I mean, I love the letters, and I’ll receive every letter, and I’ll answer every email but I’m tired receiving emails from people that look at me and say, “You see what I tell you? Why should I become a Christian? Look at all these people. Look at all the hate. This is your Jesus? This is your Christianity? Look at them.” Anyway, we’ll continue with this, and again, as I said, I never was going to preach but this is a topic that is dear to my heart because, at the end of the day, I don’t give a damn who gets elected president. The truth of the matter is that whoever does, there’s going to be a new one.
But the way that we behave during this election, and the way our children see the way that we are behaving, it’s going to have a great, great impact on this earth. Again, at the end of the day, for those of us that call ourselves Christians, and act like a bunch of heathens, and act like a bunch of hateful, I don’t even know what, just remember something, you're not creating any problem for anybody but you. At the end of the day, the one that is hurt the most is those people that are out there hopeless, those people that are out there seeking meaning in their lives.
As a matter of fact, your behavior is just taking away from all of them. Again, there’s a lot of great people on all sides but St. Francis once said, we might be the only Bible somebody ever sees. It’s been a good day. I enjoyed talking to you. I enjoy talking to you all the time. I enjoy receiving all your emails, and all the support that I’ve been given. If you enjoy this podcast, share it with your friends, and tell them to tune in in a couple of days. We will continue this, and bring it to a close. Then from there on, I’m just going to start talking about things that are really relevant, things that are really impactful, you know. I want to start a whole new series on how I came to faith, not about how do I go to a church, or why I became a Christian or anything like that. Why I came to faith. I think that that’s very, very important because, at the end of the day, we’re all seeking something.
There are millions and millions of people out there hopeless. There are millions of people hurting. There are millions of people that don’t want to hear all these divisions, and all this hatefulness, and all this name-calling and nickname calling like a bunch of little babies. There’s people out there that want to hear how you’re going to help me feed my family. How you're going to provide healthcare for me. What if I get sick with this COVID? Where am I going to get treated? How are you going to take my pre-existing condition? Everybody has a pre-existing condition. We’ll see what happens in a couple of weeks but next week, we’ll continue this episode on the Narco Mindset podcast. Again, share with your friends, go to my website, www.jorgevaldesphd.com. Sign on to our community. I’ll be announcing some great, great things for our community members. God bless, have a wonderful day.
OUTRO: We’ve come to the conclusion of this episode of the Narco Mindset podcast but your path towards hope, meaning and redemption continues. For more information and resources to help you on your path towards finding a life built on integrity, honor and truth, head to jorgevaldesphd.com, and join our community. We appreciate you joining us for this episode, and look forward to helping you find your turning point right here on the Narco Mindset podcast.