Episode #5 - Narco Mindset Podcast - Narco Mindset Principles Explained
Narco Mindset Principles Explained
February 26, 2020
The Host: Jorge Valdes Ph.D. - An Author, Speaker, Blogger, Podcaster, and You Tuber
Co-Host: Anthony Petrucci
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Dr Valdes tells us why he wants to share his Narco Mindset with us. Knowing that he had a great education, a great family, and a promising future he decided to one day cross one line. It was there that he found himself living a lavish lifestyle thinking that it would bring him happiness. These Narco Mindset Principles transcend every area of society, time and culture. He wants to share how he implementing these principles can result in forming a prosperous and virtuous character.
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TRANSCRIPTION OF EPISODE #5
Intro: Before we watched TV shows and movies on Narcos, and even before Pablo Escobar’s rise to fame, there was one man who was the ultimate Narco. He lived the Narco life of greed, money and power but found a way to reclaim his life, and use his astonishing experiences to empower others to live a life of hope, meaning and redemption. Welcome to the Narco Mindset podcast where Dr. Jorge Valdes shares his journey through life before and after the Medellín Drug Cartel. From torture and multiple prison sentences to how he refocused his life onto a path of principles learned as a Narco. It’s time to share that raw truth with you, right here on the Narco Mindset podcast with your host, Dr. Jorge Valdes.
Jorge: Welcome to the Narco Mindset podcast. I am your host, Dr. Jorge Valdes. I am here with my co-host, Anthony Petrucci. Anthony, I know that you allowed me to ramble on for those last four episodes to tell the listeners my complete story. Well, that challenged me with those questions that you and I believe that many of our listeners have. I pray I did not bore anyone, but I think it was important to tell the complete story, almost like a re-cap, not to re-live another stupid Narco story, but to set up the foundation for what we want our podcast to be.
Anthony: It’s important for the listeners to really understand your story because then they’ll know what types of topics that we’re talking about and it just makes it more real for people and I think that’s why it’s really good to go through this.
Jorge: Not because of anything but mostly because what Hollywood wants is to tell the same old Narcos story but the emphasis on the beginning of what became of the Medellín Drug Cartel. They want to hear about all the sex, drugs, power, cars, planes, yachts and all the gorgeous women. You and I discussed this many times. This is not the story I want to tell. All the stories in Pablo Escobar, Narcos, Blow, they tell the same thing. Some poor kid enters the life of crime, becomes very powerful, lives a lavish lifestyle and then either dies or goes to prison for life. That’s not my story.
Anthony: Right, that is not your life. Your life has a different beginning and a different ending.
Jorge: You’re right, but what is most important that I want our listeners to hear clearly, I am truly sorry for the choices that I made. I despise the life I lived. I am sorry I hurt so many people, all in the search of a goal that does not exist. We’ll not glorify that lie by telling the same old story. Listen, I want our listeners to know something. I look at my life now, many people see my life, they envy my life. I have an amazing marriage. I’m so madly in love with the woman that God finally gave me. I have six very successful children, but let me tell you something, I paid a deep price for what I did.
My God, life hasn’t been glory. People think that you give your life to God and things become roses and there are bells in heaven. That didn’t happen to me. Three months I gave my life to God, things went from bad to worse. As I said before in the episode, my dad got diagnosed with cancer, given a year to live. My best friend in the whole world. My ex-wife disappeared with my children. And I came out. It was a big challenge. It was a different world. I had spent 10 years of my life in jail and all of a sudden, here I am at a Christian university where people thought differently than I did, they spoke differently than I did. It was really, really challenging.
Many, many times I asked myself, “Did I miss God’s will? What am I doing here? I’m fooling myself. I’m 40 years old and I’m among young men and women.” I remember going to a lecture one time and sitting at the lecture and I remember so clearly today. It was Alister McGrath versus George Limbeck, the School of Oxford versus the School of Yale on post-modern thought. They were talking and in the midst of all that talking, I had tears going down my eyes. I could not understand a single word they had said.
Thank God I was sitting next to this amazing professor, Old Testament professor, Wolf, and he looked at me, grabbed my hand in a very reassuring and warm manner and he says, “You don’t understand what they are saying, do you?” I said, “Sir, no, I do not.” He said, “Don’t worry son, I don’t either.” That actually saved me. I stayed up waiting for that. It was very, very difficult. Same thing when I went to Loyola for my Ph.D. Here I was in one of the toughest Ph.D. programs in the country. I had to learn five languages and it was very, very hard but I struggled and I persevered and then when I decided to become a full-time dad to my children, things started to really go bad.
I had horrible problems with my ex-wife, I’m sure she was struggling with her own problems. We went back and forth to court and then I remember one day hearing about my 16-year-old son who had overdosed. I remember my ex-wife calling me and saying he’s dead, he’s dead, he’s dead. Christmas Day. It just tore my life apart. Had the rescue been 20 seconds later, I would never have seen my son. You know when I saw the rescue come and take him away, everything that I did wrong in my life just went right through me. Here was my son, overdosing on drugs that I was instrumental in bringing to America.
Seven years into my marriage when I was the most sought-after speaker in America, all of a sudden, I almost got divorced from my wife because I could not understand her. She was suffering from acute clinical depression and I was so involved in being a Christian celebrity now and God had to destroy me. It’s been a 20-year journey of really a lot of pain. You know the glory about it is that if we endure … the thing that we have to be clear about in life is we just can’t do something wrong and feel like God’s going to forgive me, everything is going to be fine. That’s a lie. He might choose to. I’m not saying He won’t, but the truth of the matter is that if I am to understand God, He’s a God and I see Him in three different dimensions.
I see God as omniscient; He knows everything. I understand God as omnipotent where He can do anything and then I understand God as merciful. If we concentrate on the mercy of God, we realize that God is also just God. If God was going to let Jorge Valdez get away with all the horror and all the pain I caused so many, so many parents because I was so consumed in my greed and my [inaudible 00:06:18] and my seeking of power, I didn’t care about anybody. Yeah, I gave a lot of money away to a lot of people, but I did it out of my excess. Never, never out of … think about it, if I had to give money to someone and that would mean I would not have fuel for my jet, they would have to be without it because I was going to fill my jet first yet today, if I see someone needs a pair of shoes, I give them one of mine. God’s mercy is He forgives us and He’s merciful but God is just.
It doesn’t matter if you're a Christian, if you are Jewish if you're a Muslim. If you believe in a higher power, you believe in the same thing I believe, that that higher power is a merciful but a just higher power. For me as a Christian, Jesus is God. We are not here to differentiate and say I have all the truth. What I believe is what I believe and I respect what everybody else believes. What I’m saying is that in life, we go through all these challenges and the thing about it is, we want to be born again but we don’t want to die. I was glad that I had to pay. I was glad that I had to forfeit every penny I had and come out of prison with not having a dollar to buy a candy bar. I needed that.
The truth of the matter was that my faith did not waver. I struggled but I persevered. I worked day and night with my wife and today we get to enjoy the life that we do but it gives us a brand new … a different perspective that we bring to this life. See, my Narco mindset perspective that is enlightened by my biblical studies and my walk is very, very different than what it was 20 years ago when I walked out of prison and just a repentant drug lord. What gives me this knowledge that we will impact on our listeners is a long life. A life that living and surviving in the Narco world and then a life of redemption, rebirth, but I had to die first before I was able to be reborn. The bottom line is this: What God did for me He can do for anyone and I just pray that our listeners find the peace that they need. I pray that the fathers find the conviction that what’s most important in life is not that extra dollar or not that extra zero in their bank account but to be present in the lives of their children who are hungry, they are dying for attention. Children are going to go where it’s fun but here’s the key, they will stay where they are loved.
I’m very excited about the podcast. I’m very excited about what we’re going to do. I’m very excited about hearing from the listeners to share their struggles. Part of our coaching program that I’m very excited about is to be able to mentor different people at different levels. I’m not a genius as I said but you know, I have a lot of experiences and through the Narco Mindset, we’re going to be able to share that with our listeners and believe by faith that many lives are going to be changed, many people are going to find the answers they’ve been seeking, many people are going to find meaning to their lives and on the other hand if nothing else, they're going to be entertained by stories that have never been told before. As you heard in previous episodes, I had great family, I had an education, I had a great future, yet I crossed a line I never thought I would. I sold out to the pseudo-American dream. Yes, I became very powerful, made millions before I was 23 years old. I lived a lavish lifestyle so many people craved thinking it would make them happy.
Anthony: What’s very interesting to me is how you did not die instead you found redemption, you found hope and became very successful. How did you do that?
Jorge: You know Anthony, lately when I’m asked to deliver a keynote address, I have begun with a couple of lines from the book of Psalms. Again, we’ve discussed this over and over again, we’re not trying to be religious, we’re not trying to convert anyone but my Narco mindset now is also informed by my biblical studies. Whenever I mention the Bible or I mention anything like that, the listener needs to take it as a book of morals, a book of principles. What I say when I start speaking is, “Come and listen, all you who fear God and I will tell you what He did for me.” This is where it gets good. Had I not confessed that hidden sin in my heart, He would not have listened. I don’t read this verse again as a religious verse trying to convert anyone. That is not why we’re doing this podcast. Basically, I read it as a foundational principle that says, “Look at my life. You know the reason for my success or my peace or the joy that I enjoy now is because I came clean about those things that I’ve done, that have hurt others, that hidden secret.” Call it whatever you like but it’s that secret within us that kills us and all of us have.
Anthony: Your story is so different than other drug lords’ stories. I mean, the world has heard so many drug lord stories. Yours is like the opposite. You’ve changed your life. You’ve found redemption. You have a healthy, happy marriage and you know how to raise successful children who faced tremendous adversity as well.
Jorge: Yeah, you're right. This is what the Narco Mindset podcast is. It’s not a podcast to glorify the Narco life but the opposite. To share those principles that I learned and used to survive and exit the Narco world and return to school and society. I returned to society as a twice-convicted drug dealer. Think about the challenges.
Anthony: But you went on to earn your Ph.D., you built a successful family and multi-million-dollar business and you were even able to retire even before the age of 55.
Jorge: Anthony, these principles that we’re going to share in the Narco Mindset podcast transcend every area of society, time and culture. Many of us are struggling every day to make sense of this world and to make the right decisions. I know, I’ve been there. You and I have discussed numerous times when we were planning on making the podcast. You’ve gone through your challenges in corporate America, I went through my challenges when I came out of prison and entered the world of faith, religion, and Christianity. We all struggle. It doesn’t matter where you're at or where we’re at or who you are. In the Narco Mindset, I pray that we’re going to be able to share some of our experiences, yours and mine, that have helped us to become who we are today.
Anthony: This is really exciting. I think because, through this podcast, we’re going to be able to share and explore those principles you're talking about and not only saved your life but brought you tremendous success no matter what you did.
Jorge: I remember people saying, “Jorge Valdes is a millionaire because he was a drug dealer.” I said, “Really? How about the thousands of drug dealers that were in prison with me that were all dead broke and I’m the only one that had millions?” When you look at the drug world at a high level, just another enterprise, has employees, it has customers, it has challenges. We call it payoffs. Today people call it a lobbyist. I was not born a genius nor was I endowed with any special gift. That’s important for listeners to see because when they listen to the choices I made and the choices I made in the past that ruined my life, the choices I made in the present that gave me a brand new life when they listen to that, the same thing that happened to me can happen to anybody. If I change, any human being can change. The question is, do we want to? Everything that I have today came from implementing those set of beliefs that I embraced and the resulting mindset that it created for me. It became my character and this is what you and I want to share with our listeners.
Anthony: What you said a few minutes ago around how when you went to jail you were the only multi-millionaire there even though there were a lot of drug dealers in jail. They were all dead broke. That point really jumped out at me in your books because it’s not like it’s just a matter of somebody sells drugs and then they somehow figured it all out and can defeat all the things that go on with that but rather somehow you had tapped into these principles that helped you be successful and then when you turned around, when you turned your life around, when you found the new path of redemption then you are able to then apply them in a totally different way. I think people are going to learn a lot from this podcast as well as be challenged. Is there anything else you’d like to add before we close this particular episode?
Jorge: No, you know, Anthony, it’s really been exciting going with our listeners, you and I, through this journey. Now is where it’s going to get good. I think that you are very excited about the next topic. It’s some book you're writing. I’m just very excited. I pray that our listeners stay with us. If you’ve enjoyed the podcast, share it. You just never know, never, never know, who you can help with one word. Listen, there are so many people that are hurting out there. There are so many people that are keeping this secret within them that they just need to let it out. Most of us just don’t realize all we need to do is come clean.
The truth of the matter is we just don’t know where or how. Through our community that we are creating at jorgevaldesphd.com, people can email us with their questions or requests. We promise that you and I are going to respond to them in a very brief manner. At the end of the day, all we pray is that we can change one person. Listen, those that are crazy enough to believe that they can change the world, are going to be those that change it. I believe, you and I, Anthony, along with our listeners, don’t have to sit back and just listen. We can and we will change the world.
Anthony: I totally agree. I want to thank everyone for listening to the Narco Mindset podcast. Remember to tune in again next week and if you find this podcast of interest, please share it with your friends and subscribe. We will be sending every subscriber a copy of Jorge’s latest book: Narco Mindset: Freedom Edition. You don’t want to miss it.
Outro: We’ve come to the conclusion of this episode of the Narco Mindset podcast but your path towards hope, meaning and redemption continues. For more information and resources to help you on your path towards finding a life built on integrity, honor and truth, head to jorgevaldesphd.com, and join our community. We appreciate you joining us for this episode, and look forward to helping you find your turning point right here on the Narco Mindset podcast.